What can we do to discourage irresponsible promotion of alcohol?
A New Zealand campaign for vodka used many of the features of online gaming communities. The campaign set up a dedicated website and recruited consumers as “secret agents” who were sent on various “missions”. The campaign was credited with a 29% growth in the brand’s average sales per month, year on year. According to one business news report, the campaign “pushed it to the top of the adored brand list among 18 – 24 year olds in both the vodka full strength market and the total ready to drink market.
While this promotion (and similar ones) cannot be said to ‘cause’ harmful drinking, the creative use of popular culture and new media technology to build connections between individuals and alcohol brands is a powerful new factor influencing consumer choice.
What can the law do to restrict advertising aimed at young people?
How can we promote sensible drinking?
Do you think we should prohibit promotions that encourage drinking excessive amounts in short periods of time?
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Plumduff Comment 1
6:53pm, 31 July 2009
1Do the best by everyone; work swiftly toward NZ made; anything bought from overseas will attract a huge contribution to maintaining the high maintenance level alcohol exacts on every single individual in Aotearoa. This is not a legal issue; this is a matter of urgent family safety. Legislate. The small scale internal opportunies for all alcohol producing companies in Aotearoa hold a bated breath fascination for me. Alcohol is burdened by constant ego-mania. This is juvenile behaviour at an international level and our youngsters deserved far better examples from us.
Peter Bruce Comment 1.1
9:01pm, 1 August 2009
4Simply ban alcohol advertising completely. Alcohol is a drug, but is privileged with its own name to differentiate it from other drugs. As a non drinker, my taxes contribute towards remediating the estimated $1 to 4 billion dollar social cost of alcohol (2002 figures). Why spend money on education programmes to alert young people to the dangers of alcohol and then allow it to be promoted with sophisticated marketing messages in the media.
runner Comment 1.1.1
12:20am, 8 August 2009
1As a non drinker does that also make you a conservative dogooder? Alcohol is a widely socially accepted drug. More people above fifteen consume alcohol it than abstain from it. So banning all alcohol advertising is pointless. Having no advertising won't stop me from wanting to buy my booze each weekend. It would mean however that I won't be biased on what brand of beer to buy as dictacted by advertising discounts.
Quarter Comment 1.1.1.1
9:42am, 9 August 2009
3Peter has a point though. Why should we let Harvey Keitel tell us that we make a great beer, or the Marlboro Men (there were 3 of them, all died of lung cancer) convince us that their cigs are as mild as may, only to retract their statements in other ads that show the blackened lungs of a smoker. Or the 'pure' puke in the toilet in front of your young daughter; with yourself and Peter to bare the brunt of tax paid ad campaigns? Can one not exist without the other? Would we need the latter if the former was (at least) part of the stem of the problem?
I'm not trying to say that people wouldn't abuse alcohol if it weren't advertised, cause they don't advertise 'P' (as far as I've seen/know) but people abuse that. But we all know that advertisements have power (otherwise companies would not poor vast amounts of money into them). Its hard for me to agree with Peter as I chuckle at Heineken ads, and well thought out beer ads from NZ & the states - but cig ads have all but vanished from TV, and often the only people that smoke on films are villains. Since the social cost of alcohol outweighs that of smoking, I don't think we can send the message to our kids that drinking is cool. Smoking was seen as cool - and look how long it has taken public perception to change...and it's only budged slightly. We have to make a start somewhere.
People have mentioned French culture to drinking (drinking age being 16, yet lower rates of public alc. abuse). I'm in France at the moment, and have not seen an alcohol advertisement yet.
Tui billboards are clever, but are they necissary? I remember when Tui had no TV ads or Billboards, yet as they proudly promote they've been around since 1889. I can't remember the last time I saw a cig sponsored billboard - even the B&H ones at the cricket seem to have disappeared. Why so hard on cigs but not alc. if its just as bad? These companies are not going to suffer too badly without their ads - if the product is good enough, word of mouth will ensure they stay alive.
zybex Comment 1.1.1.1.1
8:38pm, 16 September 2009
3The major problem is the availability, promotion and deep discount loss leading of alcahol in SUPERMARKETS. Grooming our kids to be the next generation of customers by normalising alcahol to the same level as weetbix and bread.
Supermarkets are awash with liquor and if you analyse the aisle space liquor is the single biggest item. SUPERMARKETS have become little more than liquor shops that sell crisps and a bit of tucker on the side. They are open to all from babies to teenagers....as opposed to normal off licenses where there is no valid reason for a minor to go.
They have used evry trick to try to get spirits on sale as well....and nearly succeeded.
Not content with supermarkets alone they extend their tentacles by opening discount booze barns along side.
Since liquor has been available in SUPERMARKETS alcahol related problems have soared....and research shows its mainly due to price promotions, and in your face displays.
Keep our kids from being groomed by these predators, and keep off license liquor sales to stores not accessible to children and youths.
Its pretty obvious really
sheila1 Comment 1.1.1.1.1.1
10:04pm, 20 September 2009
2I don't agree. This sounds like a comment from a disgruntled hotelier? I don't see too many kids drinking wine, but I see an awful lot putting away alcopops (frequently heavily discounted), which are not available from Supermarkets. Also the supermarkets are much more stringent on checking ID than bottle stores.
Banning all liquor advertising and promotion of alcohol would be a start to reducing consumption.
Jill Ford Comment 2
2:41pm, 19 August 2009
3Given the huge cost at personal level and society at large, I feel we need to restrict alchol in more ways than we do currently.
I am a marketeer and from my experience if a marketing campaign doesnt work it ceases, so if advertising of alcohol didnt work the companies wouldnt do it!
The arguement that it is legal so why shouldnt they advertise, doesnt take into account the huge costs to society.
Alcohol is easily as harmful as tobacco, we have banned virtually all promotion of tobacco, including sponsorship, except point of sales, we need to do the same for alcohol.
Overseas research would also indicate that,especially with younger people, increasing price with higher taxes reduces consumption, this should be seriously considered especially for newer products such as Alcohol pops - where in Germany taxes were increased to those of ordinary spirits and amount of consumption by teenagers droped dramatically.
In terms of social marketing - currently the amount allocated to this by Govt compared to the advertising budgets of the Alcohol companies results in a totally uneven playing field, as Govt are highly unlikely to significantly raise the $ for social marketing, then the easiest and most obvious option is ban liquor advertising.
While we allow continue to sponsorship and advertising of what is a signifiant drug, its hardly suprising we have problems..
sheila1 Comment 3
10:13pm, 24 August 2009
1The liqour companies know the writing is on the wall, so they have come up with some very suttle advertising/promotions, whilst giving the impression that they are committed to supporting sports bodies etc. I can't think of a rugby NZ Super 14 or NPC team that does'nt carry some liquor advertising on it's playing strip. Many of the players are idolised by youngsters, who consequently will link success with liquor.
When I go down to my local rugby club, I see the goal pads, sideline flags, and some hoardings advertising alcohol. It is inevitable that the young players will grow to see the link between rugby and liquor as the norm.
Rugby League has been targeted also, with Lion Red prominent on the NZ Warriors strip.
For me, nothing short of a complete ban of the advertising or promotion of liquor is acceptable. The advertising rules which apply to tobacco products, must also be applied to liquor.
Sauniere Comment 3.1
12:42am, 28 August 2009
0The advertising is a protected non negotiable item. Our politicians are bought off. Long experience has taught that demanding standards of decency is wasted effort. Until Industry itself is willing to abide by a code honestly and allow interest groups from the harmed fraternity eg drug driving victims to give guidance in advert development or vet final products for glitches there is only bad faith, and building resentment. US distillers have codes 50 x as ethical as what is done here. Our MPs have no guts to sanitise the worlds most vile ads - just deep pockets.
Where else would you get people drinking in a truck that crashes. The Tui people are evil - no we're not laughing.
monster Comment 4
9:15am, 13 September 2009
1It doesn't matter what is done, anti-social drinking will always happen. All human cultures do drugs. The Muslim religion comes closest to stopping people from drinking but even their hard-core approach isn't completely successful.
runner Comment 4.1
6:17am, 28 September 2009
0Agree with you there, countries like Pakistan might have little problems with drinkers(due to their harsh Islamic laws) but as a trade-off they have problems with hundreds of thousands of their people using opiates.
RokPx Comment 5
1:40pm, 28 September 2009
2Q. When did cities begin introducing liquor bans?
A. After the sale of alcohol was permitted in supermarkets - there was no need for them before that.
The introduction of cheap liquor in supermarkets has been a major contributor to the problems we now face, followed closely behind by bulk liquor outlets selling cheap RTDs.
Collectively, these outlets have drowned the communites in chear liquor with the support of the breweries and suppliers by way of bulk purchase discounting.
Why should it be that the genral public can purchase alcohol at a cheaper price than a publican who, by the way, in most circumstances, provides a safe, supervised environment for drinking.
During the recent Undie 500 troubles in Dunedin, supermarkets stocked up on huge quanities of alcohol and ran massive specials to make sure they got their financial cut of the mayhem that ensued.
It is these sort of promotions that need to be curtailed. There need to be stricter controls in place regading pricing right from the manufacurer/supplier down to the retailer.
This should also help address problems on-licence premises are experiencing due to the availability of cheap liqour from supermarkets. It had an effect, to some extent, when supermarket sales were introduced; but now, with the combined weight of this and the anti-smoking legislation that was introduced, many licencees are finding their livelihoods threatened. (And fair enough... why should I pay $9 for a litre of beer when I can get it from the supermarket for around $4/litre.)
Let's turn the tables - ensure that supermarkets pay more than on-licence premises for their stock. It's probably impossible but it would get a lot of drinking back into supervised environments.
[Edit] Also, enforcement agencies should perhaps put more emphasis into breaches of the liquour laws by lecensees serving already intoxicated patrons rather than setting up stings for serving under-ages. After all, it's that intoxicated punter (or should I say "munter") that causes all the problems of the street or on his return home.
Just my 2c worth.
runner Comment 5.1
7:08am, 4 October 2009
0Supermarkets are only permitted to sell beer and wine and it's probably best we keep it at that. In the UK they offer the sale of all alcohols. The traditional liquor store seems to have gone under because of the exodus to buying at the major supermarket brands, where you can buy everything you need in one place.
In New Zealand I've noticed that the supermarkets do not always have the best available prices, there is good competition between bottlestores. The issue here is convenience, people are choosing the supermarkets because they can buy their booze, and also food and other supplies all under one roof.
I do agree with you that we need to find ways to shift more people on to on-licence premises. There is less likely to be much alcohol related harm at the trade off of higher drink prices. That will also mean that proposals limiting opening hours (but not necessarily alcohol trading hours) should be scrapped.
